Credits & Acknowledgements
When We All Get to Heaven was made possible by a community of contributors, collaborators, advisors, and friends.
Our Project Advisors
Kent Brintnall – University of North Carolina, Charlotte
Ashon Crawley – University of Virginia
Lynn Jordan – Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco
Mark Jordan – Harvard Divinity School
Kathryn Lofton – Yale University
The many academic institutions and programs that have supported this project over the years
Women’s Studies in Religion Program at Harvard Divinity School
Ann Braude and Tracy Wall
Congregational Studies Team
Especially Bill McKinney, Steve Warner, Nancy Ammerman, and Gerardo Marti
American Religious Sounds Project
Amy DeRogatis and Isaac Weiner
University of California, Berkeley
Beatrice Bain Research Group
Religion, Politics and Globalization Program
Institute for the Study of Societal Issues
Christine Trost
Undergraduate Research Apprenticeship Program
Stefanie Ebeling
Worcester State University
Worcester State Foundation
Department of Sociology & Dean Russ Pottle
Sacred Writes
Liz Bucar and Megan Goodwin
The Religion, Race, and Democracy Lab at the University of Virginia
The Symposium on Religion in the American West
Clements Center of Southwest Studies, Southern Methodist University
Eiteljorg Museum of American Indian and Western Art
Brett Hendrickson and Brandi Denison
Archives and archivists
San Francisco Public Library
Susan Goldstein, Tim Wilson
Graduate Theological Union
David Stiver
Center for LGBTQ and Gender Studies in Religion at the Pacific School of Religion
Bernie Schlager
GLBTHS
Isaac Fellman, John Raines
Scott Bloom and Trogoidia Films
Funders and Supporters
American Academy of Religion
Henry Luce Foundation
Jonathan VanAntwerpen
California Humanities
E. Rhodes and Leona B. Carpenter Foundation
The Hewat Fund at RSF
Individual Supporters
Anonymous, Louette Colombano, Frisky Divinity Productions, Susan Goldstein, Rebecca Gordon and Jan Adams, Jane and Michael Haney, Johannah Haney, Jone and Tim Haney, Jennifer Ladd, Catherine Leiser and Christopher Janeway, Becky Liebman, Katie Lofton, Tessie Mandeville and Lisa Heezen, Alec Nedelman and Libby Pachares, Adam Ouderkirk, Sarah Quinn and Brian Kapusta, Amelie Ratliff, Elaine Reily and Marilyn Stern, Sharon Rich and Nancy Reed, Marci Riseman and Evan Sagerman, Pam Rogers, Ruth Roper, Judy Weiss
And the many contributors to our Givebutter campaign!
Donations were received
In memory of
Charles Gohman, Harold Huntington, Greg Kastl, Tede Matthews, Michael Ritter, Bill Smith
In honor of,
Lynne Gerber, Lynn Jordan, Jim Mitulski
For business advice
Ian Fox, Ben Riskin, Amy Westervelt
For help on the business end
FJC: A Foundation of Philanthropic Funds
Sophia Trombold
Adam Ouderkirk
For Legal help
Hosea Baskin
Julien Swanson and everyone at Austin Swanson Associates
Women’s Audio Mission – for making us sound so darn good!!!
Our many friends and colleagues who listened to and commented on countless episode drafts.
Everyone at Slate, especially Mia Lobel for making this possible.
The friends we never knew we needed at the Nonfiction Hotlist.
Every single one of the over 100 people we interviewed – those who did and did not end up in the final version. We learned from every one of you. And we’re not done yet!
And in memory of those we interviewed who have since left us
Steve Carson, Robert Cromey, Jay Deacon, Jack Hoggatt-St. John, Larry Hughes, August O’Connor, Steve Pieters, Sandra Robinson, Cees van Aalst, Velle Prewitt.
Everyone in the MCCSF congregation and the MCCSF faith-filled clergy who believed in us and supported this project over its many years.
Rev. Daniel Borysewicz, Rev. Lea Brown, Rev. Victor Floyd, Rev. William Knight, Rev. Robert Shively, Rev. Annie Steinberg-Behrman.
Other supportive friends for their many supportive acts
Tom Bremer, John Cunningham, Jorg Foekele, Brett Krutzsch, Maggie Kulyk, Thomas Kurtz, Brendan McHugh, Danny Nicoletta, Matt and Colette Potts, the Renegade Humanists Collective, Lisa Webster, Seth Freed Wesssler.
Our friends, our families, and our friend-families
Lynne – Michael Allen, Jackie Bass, KC Bitterman, Kent Brintnall, Robin Dennings, Rachel Gross, Tracy Hewat, Christopher Janeway, Rebecca O. Johnson, Catherine Leiser, Gina Lovoi, Brian Kapusta, Patricia Maher, Daniel Martinez, Sarah Quinn, Elaine Reily, Marci Riseman, Evan Sagerman, Shane Snowdon, Almitra Stanley, Marilyn Stern, Susan Stinson, George Triantafillou, Susan Triantafillou, Heather White, the Borelli/Shute crew, the Giving Gals, the Tuesday night movie group, and the whole, wide, welcoming Haney family. In loving memory of Harold Huntington.
Ariana – Stephanie Worobey, Sasha Galbraith-Lipton, Hope Rehak, Hannah Rehak, Helen Hailes, Steven Lauterwasser, Casper ter Kuile, Lauren Sandler, Lucy Little, Ben Paul, Jeff Emtman
Siri — Pegah Rahmanian, Lulian, and Tiam, the Colom Family (Diane, Bill, Trevor, and Evan); the whole Curtis Fam; Sarah Quinn (again), Sookyoung Lee, Victoria Restler, and James Greene, for sharing their networks; The Coop family; Transom Traveling workshop Catalina Island 2017; in memory of Michael Burawoy
Research Assistants
UC Berkeley
Susannah Chaplain, pan elllington, James Huynh, Aaron Kavanaugh, Jane Kim, Elle Kurata, Alon Mazor, Pauline Miller, Emily Niles, Meghan Reddy, Hazel Roxas, Erica Thomas, Catherine Van Dyke, Ale Vasquez, Jasmine Verrett,, Sara Volkmann, Keith Watts, Justin Yoo
Undergraduate Research Apprentice Program at UC Berkeley
Harvard Divinity School – Taylor Buehler, Rachel Deitch, Siobhan Kelly
And every person who answered one of our endless emails seeking advice, counsel, support, ideas – anything really. The generosity of strangers and friends in such moments overwhelms us.
Production Team
Executive Producer/Host – Lynne Gerber
Co-Founder/Producer – Siri Colom
Co-Founder/Producer – Ariana Nedelman
Managing Producer – Sarah Ventre (January 2023-; Krissy Clark (November 2024-present)
Story Editor – Sayre Quevedo
Sound Designer – David Herman
Consulting Producer – Tim Dillinger
Fact Checker – Betsy Towner Levine
Additional editorial advising – Allison Behringer, Arwen Nicks, Krissy Clark, Sarah Ventre
Outreach coordinator – Ariana Martinez
Music by Tasty Morsels and the musicians, congregants and friends of MCC San Francisco under the musical leadership of Bob Crocker and Jack Hoggatt-St. John.
Production Interns – Nico Kossakowski, Carrie Hale, Victoria Nascimento